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Post by tormore on Jun 12, 2007 16:05:24 GMT 12
God or a big bang?.I want to know what was there before god and the big bang and yes I know god is eternal and there was nothing before the big bang.It stands to reason(to me)that All things have to have a starting point,if there was a big bang then what (or who) set it off?,If there is a god then where did it come from?.......
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Post by OasisNZ on Jun 12, 2007 17:36:43 GMT 12
All points to the fact that there HAD to be something to start with, surely? Therefore Divine Creation gets my vote... Not 100% sure what the Divine Intervention was exactly, but hey, I'm only a lowly Human...
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Post by tormore on Jun 12, 2007 17:47:35 GMT 12
All points to the fact that there HAD to be something to start with, surely? Therefore Divine Creation gets my vote... Not 100% sure what the Divine Intervention was exactly, but hey, I'm only a lowly Human... Take one step further back and tell me where the divine came from?it must have a start point also.(the eternal no beginning answer won't wash).....
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Post by misilon1 on Jun 12, 2007 19:05:42 GMT 12
You asking that question is putting yourself in the position of the ant An ant has no concept of why man was created, let alone why the bad situation on earth even exists. God is not answerable to that sort of barraging
To a christian his faith will tell him god has always been,.... he was not created,...his faith tells him that,... and who needs anymore than that ,...an atheist will never understand it and thats fine,..
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Post by tormore on Jun 12, 2007 19:16:50 GMT 12
You asking that question is putting yourself in the position of the ant An ant has no concept of why man was created, let alone why the bad situation on earth even exists. God is not answerable to that sort of barraging To a christian his faith will tell him god has always been,.... he was not created,...his faith tells him that,... and who needs anymore than that ,...an atheist will never understand it and thats fine,.. That is not an answer, mere rhetoric.
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Post by misilon1 on Jun 12, 2007 19:18:38 GMT 12
thats as close to an answer you will ever get ,....from anyone,...
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Post by misilon1 on Jun 12, 2007 19:26:38 GMT 12
some people,.......logical people,.... have come to the same conclusion as French philosopher Voltaire, who stated:... ‘If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.’ Voltaire was a very intelligent man so many try to reflect why a man as intelligent as he would even make such a statement?” maybe you can too,..
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Post by tormore on Jun 12, 2007 19:26:58 GMT 12
Well not good enough, I want more.........
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Post by tormore on Jun 12, 2007 19:29:31 GMT 12
some people,.......logical people,.... have come to the same conclusion as French philosopher Voltaire, who stated:... ‘If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.’ Voltaire was a very intelligent man so many try to reflect why a man as intelligent as he would even make such a statement?” maybe you can too,.. Einstein said something very similar, it is a never ending cycle but still had to start somehow.
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Post by misilon1 on Jun 12, 2007 19:33:26 GMT 12
. No one created god he was always there we are a special creation of his, he made us so we could procreate, how does a non believer explain that,..for animals on land as well as in the sea,..even down to the fly,...
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Post by tormore on Jun 12, 2007 19:35:40 GMT 12
. No one created god he was always there we are a special creation of his, he made us so we could procreate, how does a non believer explain that,..for animals on land as well as in the sea,..even down to the fly,... WHY? ?
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Post by misilon1 on Jun 12, 2007 19:45:47 GMT 12
david you either ask me something intelligent or dont bother ,..you can have ur laughs at someone elses expense ok? not mine
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Post by misilon1 on Jun 12, 2007 19:49:03 GMT 12
everything about god and christians is a game to you and ur friends ,..dunno why you bother ,..
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Post by tormore on Jun 12, 2007 19:59:36 GMT 12
david you either ask me something intelligent or dont bother ,..you can have ur laughs at someone elses expense ok? not mine Not being funny, why would he bother?why would a being/entity that powerful need to be worshiped by his creation?
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Post by Dalbyj on Jun 13, 2007 7:56:41 GMT 12
(the eternal no beginning answer won't wash)..... Why won't that answer wash? Just because we cannot comprehend the thought of someone/something being always there, doesn't mean it can't happen. Methinks this might just be a wee wind up thread!!
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Post by tormore on Jun 13, 2007 8:22:18 GMT 12
(the eternal no beginning answer won't wash)..... Why won't that answer wash? Just because we cannot comprehend the thought of someone/something being always there, doesn't mean it can't happen. Methinks this might just be a wee wind up thread!! Methinks you might be wrong......
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Post by OasisNZ on Jun 13, 2007 9:49:04 GMT 12
Na Dalbyj, not a wind up, Tormore has been searching for God for years now...
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Post by meandog on Jun 13, 2007 10:20:25 GMT 12
Na Dalbyj, not a wind up, Tormore has been searching for God for years now... Oasis give me some warning, I bloody near choked on my cup of tea.
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Post by tismeagain on Jun 13, 2007 12:04:42 GMT 12
Na Dalbyj, not a wind up, Tormore has been searching for God for years now...
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Post by Dalbyj on Jun 13, 2007 15:31:07 GMT 12
Na Dalbyj, not a wind up, Tormore has been searching for God for years now... Aww the poor guy!! Should we tell him God isn't lost? ;D ;D ;D
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