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Post by aztec on Mar 6, 2009 12:21:04 GMT 12
Hi Ivan, Apologies for the delayed response due to the backlog of queries received over the holiday period. The smoked mussels in the tinned variety are sourced from China because the supplier is based in China. Regards Dinesh Kumar Sealord Marketing NZ Ph 0800 732 5673
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Post by Dalbyj on Mar 6, 2009 15:19:33 GMT 12
Don't ask me why, but that reminds me of the classic movie Airplane ...
'This woman has to be gotten to a hospital.' 'A hospital? What is it?' 'It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.'
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Post by Dalbyj on Mar 6, 2009 15:20:06 GMT 12
Elaine Dickinson: You got a letter from headquarters this morning. Ted Striker: What is it? Elaine Dickinson: It's a big building where generals meet, but that's not important right now.
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Post by Suzie on Mar 6, 2009 15:46:40 GMT 12
Dinesh Kumar sounds like an extremely intelligent chap, wonder who filled in his immigration papers for him? I'm with Winnie on that issue!
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Post by naki on Mar 7, 2009 20:48:29 GMT 12
The smoked mussels in the tinned variety are sourced from China because the supplier is based in China. Ph 0800 732 5673 LOL! It looks like Sealord have two objectives for their P.R. staff - 1/ answer all mail. 2/ If you really believe that someone is wasting your time, tell them to 'fuck off' without actually telling them to 'fuck off'. Congratulations Mr Kumar. An answer more than worthy of the question.
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Post by naki on Mar 7, 2009 21:07:53 GMT 12
Dinesh Kumar sounds like an extremely intelligent chap, wonder who filled in his immigration papers for him? I'm with Winnie on that issue! Speaking as a immigrant of many years' standing in the NZ community, I think that there are still a few New Zealand born racists who need to get their sh!t together. Frankly, the immigrants who have arrived over the last two decades have turned this country from a backward, inbred, hillbilly shit hole into an inclusive and multicultural society. We are here because we choose to be, not because our parents were bored with two tv channels and six o'clock closing. Immigrants have dragged this country kicking and screaming from being the cosy outpost of the British Empire that it clung so desperately, even after Britain moved on to trade with the far more sophisticated European markets. In ten years' time, it will be virtually impossible to find a grubby little dairy, a tacky little milk bar, or a greasy chip shop run by a fat white couple with no customer service skills and even less idea of what the market wants. This country is being taken over by a better breed of people. Those of you who cling to the notion that being born in NZ is an instant ticket to superiority are living in a fool's paradise.
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Post by Suzie on Mar 7, 2009 21:25:50 GMT 12
Well clearly you don't live where I do, or frequent the same places Naki.
The immigrants I have noticed (generalisation, I don't mean ALL) have done nothing but drag our country backwards. Having worked as a probation officer, I've dealt with many immigrants children who have tried to enforce their cultural standards on innocent people. Most have not integrated well into our country. In short, I believe in the adage "when in Rome, do as the Roman's do". NZ is and for the past two hundred years had a society made up of many races, however, we have our own culture and that should always take precidence over any 'imported' culture.
I am proud to be a kiwi, yes I believe I have more rights than those that abuse our systems, waste our vital resources and tax payers money, by abusing our land, people and systems. Any one that lives according to our laws is welcome, anyone that integrates into our country is welcome, we have three official languages here, English, Maori and Sign Language, to coin a phrase recently seen in an email.... speak them or stuff of back where you came from... Simeple really.
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Post by naki on Mar 7, 2009 21:29:53 GMT 12
Well clearly you don't live where I do, or frequent the same places Naki. The immigrants I have noticed (generalisation, I don't mean ALL) have done nothing but drag our country backwards. Having worked as a probation officer, I've dealt with many immigrants children who have tried to enforce their cultural standards on innocent people. Most have not integrated well into our country. In short, I believe in the adage "when in Rome, do as the Roman's do". NZ is and for the past two hundred years had a society made up of many races, however, we have our own culture and that should always take precidence over any 'imported' culture. I am proud to be a kiwi, yes I believe I have more rights than those that abuse our systems, waste our vital resources and tax payers money, by abusing our land, people and systems. Any one that lives according to our laws is welcome, anyone that integrates into our country is welcome, we have three official languages here, English, Maori and Sign Language, to coin a phrase recently seen in an email.... speak them or stuff of back where you came from... Simeple really. Simple is an ideal word to describe anyone that believes such drivel.
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Post by Suzie on Mar 7, 2009 21:31:38 GMT 12
With reference to the comment about dragging us out of a 'backward' lifestyle. Have you ever stopped to think that many kiwi's actually liked that lifestyle, which was healthy, good for the environment and produced some of the worlds most famous adventurers, scientist and sports people. It's interesting to note, that the past couple of decades you quote, have seen these successes decrease to an almost no existant level ..... I hardly call the past couple of decades an improvement, but rather an ongoing degradation of a decent society.
Thirty years ago I could walk down the street and not fear for my life, my children could walk to school, and I never had to lock my doors. My neighbours all knew each other, and spoke the same language. People smiled, cared for each other, and most importantly respected each other, their elders, their pets, and public and private properties. The few that didn't were dealt with quickly...... strangely, since the immigration numbers have increased, all that has stopped...... IMPROVEMENT ... I DOUBT IT SUNSHINE ...
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Post by naki on Mar 7, 2009 22:07:28 GMT 12
So, are you in the same 'senile old fart' category as aztec?
The sad bunch of gerriatric misfits whon saw no reason to accept the indigenous cultures and values of the Maori, but expect the rest of us to accept yours? The futile old incontinents who dwell on the heroics of a tiny minority of the world's notable people, most of who achieved their successes through the good grace of other countries?
Sir Edmund Hilary was part of a British expedition to the summit of Everest.
Ernest Rutherford is best remembered for collaborative work undertaken in Montreal and Manchester. Can you name any prominent New Zealanders who made it on their own? Me neither.
Keep your rose-tinted spectacles focused on the 1970's, Suzie. I'm sure you hanker for the days of whites-only immigration and the hell with the Treaty of Waitangi.
New Zealand is a far better place than it was thirty years ago. It will be far better yet when those who cling to the notion that this pissant little country was ever a bastion of greatness have all perished of old age.
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Post by Suzie on Mar 8, 2009 7:08:20 GMT 12
Simple? because I tell the truth, and have experience to support my claims, whilst you on the other hand, have come to a foreign country, and do nothing but complain? One really has to wonder why you bother to stay here, obviously you have nothing positive to contribute. No, I am not even in the same decade as Aztec, who incidently, is not a "silly ol fart', but thanks fo rthe demonstration of the 'lack of respect' I mentioned amongst our immigrants.
Colour has nothing to do with culture Naki, clearly you are great at sprouting off, but if you did your homework you would find out our pacific cousins were coming to NZ to live during the late 50's, early 60's. And, I have always been a great supporter of the treaty, and it's aims and objectives, which have been misinterpreted by so many. Obviously yet again you sprout off about someone you know little about.
Infact Naki, that's all you seem to do, blow wind, adopt other's agruments, and name call. How about a list of the positive things you have bought to NZ and perhaps some reasons why your presence here has benefited 'my' country in some way. You are the one with rose coloured glasses my dear, if you think this country has 'improved' in recent years. But then, 'improvement' is entirely 'subjective' and as I have pointed out, what most of our immigrants see as improvements, is far beyond my definition of the word.
Remove your own rose coloured glasses, and do it the 'kiwi' way, or go home, I'm happy to drive you to the airport.
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Post by Suzie on Mar 8, 2009 7:31:46 GMT 12
So, are you in the same 'senile old fart' category as aztec? The sad bunch of gerriatric misfits whon saw no reason to accept the indigenous cultures and values of the Maori, but expect the rest of us to accept yours? The futile old incontinents who dwell on the heroics of a tiny minority of the world's notable people, most of who achieved their successes through the good grace of other countries? It may have escaped your notice, but NZ is a "tiny minority' of the worlds population. For it to have produced so many people that have contributed to the world, as a whole, in such a positive way, is incredible. You focus just on the most famous, which is typical of people that have only browse the 'headlines' but lack the depth of knowledge. There were many many more New Zealanders that made their mark on the world stage, for example, our defence forces, who have travelled far and wide to save the 'butts' of other countries, and are famous for their terrific abilities. Yes, European colonisation did very little to adopt the ways of the tangata whenua, who suffered great losses of land, life and Tohanga. Colonisation broke the Wairua of many, but not completely, and Maori have struggled to regain their Mana. There is no excuse for the ways of the colonists who did this. Appalling things happened in many countries, the french for example slaughtered the aboriginies in many lands they invaded. Because of this you think 'why should you make an effort'? Has history taught you nothing? Do 'two wrongs make a right'? Try going to the middle east and not adopting their ways, and see where it gets you. Try driving on the left hand side of the road in America and note the results. For some reason people from other countries decide to leave their birth land and come to NZ. Why should they come here expecting to immitate what they have left, if it is so important to them, why leave in the first place. When I travel overseas it's because I want to experience 'difference'. When I resided in another country, I did so because I wanted to be 'there'. What would have been the point in going there if I wanted it to be the same as NZ?
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Post by Suzie on Mar 8, 2009 7:36:27 GMT 12
This is the contents of an email doing the round, proclaiming to have been said by Kevin Rudd. Obviously it's a hoax. But I agree with every damn word, and think it should apply here as well.
The views of Patriotic Australian Prime Minister
Whole world Needs A Leader Like This!
Prime Minister - Australia
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, WE will find the courage to start speaking and voicing the same truths.
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Post by naki on Mar 8, 2009 8:45:27 GMT 12
Obviously, I've hit some home truths here.
Let's tackle your three posts a little at a time.
First up, when I mention that I'm an immigrant, you pull out the "if you don't like it here, go home" card. That really sets the tone for what follows.
You claim that my lack of respect for you is a demonstration of the 'lack of respect' I mentioned amongst our immigrants. Sorry, but Kiwis are just as plain-speaking when they are confronted with racist stupidity.
ANOTHER SILLY CLAIM... Simple? because I tell the truth,and have experience to support my claims, whilst you on the other hand, have come to a foreign country,
Your opinion does not constitute truth.Nor does the fact that I arrived from overseas over twenty years ago disqualify me from commenting on what I have seen happening in NZ.
Your assumption that I know little about the Treaty is misguided. My career in NZ has brought me into close contact with Maori, their history, and their culture. Given that you are clearly a racist of very little intelligence, I doubt if you have much concept of the Treaty or the people, I won't waste time on the subject, because I doubt that you could keep up.
You have demanded that I furnish references for my twenty years in New Zealand, and are rude enough to question "How about a list of the positive things you have bought to NZ"
The New Zealand Immigration Service asked these questions of me twenty years ago. When I told them that I had been recruited by a New Zealand government department to help fill a skills shortage in NZ, they were more than happy to let me in. I really dont care if I qualify to be here in your eyes, because you are a nobody.
Having shot down your 'famous NZers' argument, I'm not surprised to see that you have changed the parameters and are now claiming "There were many many more New Zealanders that made their mark on the world stage, for example, our defence forces, who have travelled far and wide to save the 'butts' of other countries, and are famous for their terrific abilities. " I'm well familiar with the NZ armed forces, that was the government department that brought me to New Zealand, and with which I served for ten years. My daughter is currently working towards a career in the Air Force, and I'm sure that my son will consider military service when he is old enough to decide. What is your military service record, Suzie?
let's tackle your cut/paste post next, Suzie.
you say it was attributed to Kevin Rudd, and is 'obviously a hoax'.
You're wrong on both counts.
If you'd taken the trouble to read it before grabbing it and pasting it, you'll see that it refers to John Howard. As for the hoax, while it has been embellished with pieces of Barry Loudermilk's notorious 2001 letter to the Bartow Trader, most of it came straight out of the mouth of John Howard. Unsurprisingly Australia dumped the fat little racist shortly afterwards.
lastly...that old standard of local racists "do it the 'kiwi' way, or go home, I'm happy to drive you to the airport."
I'm doing it the New Zealand way, ducky. The REAL New Zealand way. The NOW New Zealand way. Immigration has saved New Zealand from its role as a quaint and irrelevant backwater relic of Britains colonial past. I like it here, and I'm staying home, thanks.If you can't cope with the improvements that we have made, I'd be happy to drive you to the airport and ship you off to a place more like the ignorant hillbilly dive that you remember so fondly, but I'm afraid that Rhodesia no longer exists.
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Post by macker on Mar 8, 2009 10:57:33 GMT 12
You are the epitome of the whinging pom. Now listen up you supercillious dickhead, why not try to fit in to a country that has so generously afforded you the privilege of living in it, instead of being a loudmouth, obnoxious wanker? Christ, everywhere I read you, you are a right (left?) pain in the arse. A moaning, supercillious pain in the arse. You really should piss off back to the land that breeds moaning shiteaters. Wherever that may be, I couldn't care less, but you do sound suspiciously like the a moaning POM. Do you ever have anything positive to contribute?
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Post by Suzie on Mar 8, 2009 11:48:30 GMT 12
Oh dear Naki, you really are a total fool aren't you. Frankly Macca is right, you're only interested in the argument, and not the facts.
As Macca and Misilon and several others that know me well can tell you, I have worked very closely with Maori, both in Marae and city settings. I have university qualifications in Treaty & Te Reo. I also co facilitated TUHANZ on behalf of Manukau Tech, so I think my dear, you presume way to much. I have long been strong in advocating Maori right to independence, but you, who having been here 20 years, clearly think you know more than anyone else on the subject, having come here at the request of a government departement. What was it, Department of Health, Sanitation control?? cos you seem to talk nothing but crap.
You do have a great ability to elicit 'part' of a statement and turn it round to suit yourself. As Macca suggests, very much English immigrant behaviour, however, as my Grandfather was English, I sincerely hope not..... incidently sunshine, my great grandfather was Ngati Porou .... but then ofcourse, with all your wonderful knowledge, you would have known that!
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Post by Suzie on Mar 8, 2009 13:28:32 GMT 12
Oh yeah Naki, I forgot to mention, I was also in the Navy and served as a WREN before my marriage. I was chosen for an officier cadetship due to my excellent test scores and my exceptionally high IQ (which you will now burst forth on some dribble about IQ score reliability, no doubt). Two of us were selected from 157
Five generations of my family have served for the NZ Armed Forces. My cousin recently ended representing NZ at the UN on behalf of Army and was extremely high ranking, . .... - how quick you are to 'presume' you know, and how wrong you often are.
But mostly to the point Naki, your arguments are, and always be fatally flawed in this subject, because you see, you weren't in NZ in the period I am referring to, so you are not, and never will be qualified to pass judgement, on whether NZ is a better country now, or back then....... You don't know, and never will know, because you have no experience, and only hearsay on which to base your arguments. . ..
You are, and always will be a foreigner, not because you weren't born here, but because of the manner in which you express yourself. .....
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Post by Suzie on Mar 8, 2009 13:33:26 GMT 12
;D ;D ;D
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Post by naki on Mar 8, 2009 15:07:34 GMT 12
Go back through the thread, read again. I'm done making a fool of you, you do it yourself far too easily.
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Post by Suzie on Mar 8, 2009 15:49:24 GMT 12
Go back through the thread, read again. I'm done making a fool of you, you do it yourself far too easily. In your mind, I'm sure you're always right, you lack the ability to be objective about anything. But, when all is said and done, you will never be a Kiwi, and that grates the hell out of you, doesn't it. Poor Naki,!!! Jealousy is such a waste of emotion! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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